i want to lower it, particularly for manufacturing, taking it down to 25%. i also wants to close those loopholes that are giving incentives for companies that are shipping jobs overseas. i want to provide tax breaks for companies that are investing here in the united states. on energy, governor romney and i both agree we need to boost american energy production. and oil and natural gas production are higher than they've been in years. but i also believe that we have to look at the energy sources of the future, like wind, solar and biofuels. and to make those investments so all this is possible -- now, in order for to us do it, we have to close our deficit, and one of the things we've been discussing tonight, how do we deal with our tax code and make sure we are reducing spending in a responsible way and how do we have enough revenue in those investments? this is a difference, because governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut in addition to $1 trillion extension of the tax cuts, and military tax cuts. how do we pay for that, redu